Now, we're going to bring up Dr. Pierre Corrie and Scott Marsland, and it's interesting.
There's no question mark at the end of this statement.
Shedding is real.
This has been a big, long, open question.
It's something that gets debated pretty endlessly on the forums that I'm aware of, and is
shedding real.
We actually think it is in our household with our experience set, so Pierre Corrie is going
to come and tell us why there's no question mark at the end of this awesome statement
here.
Thanks, Chris.
You know, we put this talk on the agenda, but maybe we made a mistake.
You guys want to hear about shedding, or should we talk about something else?
Oh, you do?
Okay.
All right.
So maybe we made the right decision.
No, I mean, it's a lame joke, but there have been so many questions about shedding for
a long time, and more recently in the last few months, I did a kind of a deep dive.
And what I'm going to do today, Scott, I promise, 20 minutes on the clock, I'm watching.
One minute left.
Can you guys call me out?
I promise, Scott, I wouldn't go over, so I'm going to hold to that promise.
I'm going to go over the science in the background of why shedding is possible, ending up in
the mechanisms and the symptoms.
And then Scott's going to talk about more about his clinical experience and approach.
So here we go.
Shedding is unfortunately real.
Why do I say that?
The FDA knows that.
In 2015, they have a document called Document on Gene Product Shedding Studies.
Okay?
There's a similar one in the EMA.
They define what a gene therapy product is.
Everyone in this room knows the mRNA vaccines are gene therapy products.
They are injecting genetic material into your body, and your body is then making something
with it.
What's it making?
The spike protein, right?
So it's making a product, and can that product shed?
Well, they define shedding.
This is in their document.
The release of viral or bacterial gene therapy products from the patient by any role of the
following routes.
The other gene therapy products on the market all have the risks of shedding in their inserts.
So look stern over there.
It's a gene therapy product for an eye disease.
It can shed in the tears and secretions for seven days.
Octavian can go to the sperm, so they say not to have sex or impregnate anyone for six
months.
And then another one, you have to be careful how to handle the feces.
So we know the products can shed.
All of the other ones do.
Was it on the insert for the mRNA vaccines?
Do you guys remember?
No, I think the insert was blank, right?
Wasn't it blank?
Yeah, blank.
Okay.
And this is the most astonishing.
I mean, Pfizer in their own trial protocol.
And by the way, this section of this protocol has been controversial in the media.
It's been fact-checked to death.
If you know how to read English, read along with me what's in their own trial protocol
in their own words.
And you tell me this doesn't refer to shedding.
So they want to be warned of and report any male participant who is receiving or has
discontinued study intervention, which just means who's been vaccinated, who then exposes
a female partner prior to around the time of conception.
So if a study subject has a baby with someone they want to know about it, that's interesting
thing that they want to know, right?
Then they want to know anyone getting pregnant after having gotten the study intervention.
By inhalation or skin contact, is that how we administer the vaccines?
We ask people to take a deep breath or just rub against the vaccine?
No.
Okay.
Any provider or member who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or
skin contact?
Interesting.
They seem to be very worried about inhalation and skin contact, don't they?
With this gene therapy product?
And then finally, a female is found to be breastfeeding while being exposed or having
been exposed to study intervention.
By the way, see how they use exposed in two different ways?
Like you can get exposed to the intervention by being in the trial, but then you can be
exposed by being near someone, and you see how they're like, it's a little weird.
I wonder why they're not so clear, huh?
But then at the bottom, again, after having been exposed to the study intervention by
inhalation or skin contact.
And I've seen numerous fact-checked articles, which tells, and they even get like some pedigree
guy from some major institution who says, no, it just means that if they were exposed
because the syringe broke.
Do we still use glass syringes?
No.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is an absolute clown world.
More importantly than the fact that it's a gene therapy product, we know gene therapy
products shed.
The FDA knows that, requires studies being done in animals and humans.
The other thing you have to understand about the class of therapeutic that these vaccines
are, is they fall under this new category of therapies called nanoparticle technology.
In a review paper from two years ago, there are currently 1,814 nanoparticle products.
They're not all in healthcare, they're in other things, but the nanoparticle science
is so in its infancy, very little compared to how much is done on therapy, has been done
on safety and exposures.
But in all the review papers, anytime you use nanoparticles, they are worried about
exposures to others.
And I'll tell you why nanoparticles are so important.
So, the vaccines get to the cell because the mRNA is packaged in a lipid nanoparticle.
So, a little fatty sac has the mRNA in it.
We have biological counterparts to nanoparticles.
There we use the term exosomes.
And exosomes are similar fatty sacs, which contain genetic material, enzymes, various
things can be included in there, including proteins.
And they circulate around our bodies.
It's a lot of intercellular communication, they're almost like act hormonally.
In fact, exosomes for a long time were thought to be just cellular debris.
And so, the science around exosomes, particularly in therapeutics, is just beginning.
So, it's actually kind of a fascinating area.
But it's dangerous.
These synthetic lipid nanoparticles and exosomes, they can cross physiologic barriers.
So, for instance, mothers can pass exosomes to their children, that's actually physiologic
and beneficial to the child.
They can also cross the blood testes barrier.
And in one review paper, ultrafine particles are capable of entering the body through skin
pores, debilitated tissues, injection, olfactory, respiratory and intestinal tracks.
Do you think the world should assign a consent form before they embarked on a global vaccination
campaign with a gene therapy product that has the capacity to be shed and then absorbed
through any of these routes to all of you who may have selected to not get vaccinated?
I mean, this is absolutely shocking.
Well, nothing shocks me anymore, but this should be as shocking as it comes.
So, how could something be shed?
So, let's walk through what I think the three conditions that you'd have to prove exist are.
So, number one, contrary to what they told us, which is, remember they told us to just
shot in the arm, stays there, right, goes away, this stops making spike antibodies after
a few days?
High five?
Yeah?
You guys remember that?
I would say that you'd have to prove that's not true.
You would have to prove that spike protein is made and then disseminates to all parts
of the body in fluids and persists for a significant amount of time.
So, that would be condition number one.
Condition number two is that you'd have to accumulate sufficient concentration so that
as that's excreted, it would then have to be at a concentration enough to make someone
as ill.
And then third, whatever is excreted, you'd have to show evidence that actually can be
absorbed by someone exposed to someone vaccinated and shedding.
So, let's go through the evidence of all three.
Number one, that BS line about staying in your arm, we now know through FOIA documents,
they knew, they knew, and oh, by the way, that's the whole thing about nanoparticle technology.
It distributes widely through the body, it does not stay in the arm, it was never supposed
to stay in the arm.
Anyone who claimed to stay in the arm knew that was a lie.
Anyone who knows gene therapy, nanoparticle products knew that was a lie.
And we have a wealth of evidence to show that.
And even in the Japanese forehead argument, where they actually measured when they injected
lipid nanoparticles, they could find lipid nanoparticles in every organ, particularly
the ovaries and testes.
And even in the TGA report, they even mentioned, and Pfizer also did a bio-distribution study,
they knew.
They lie.
They lie rapaciously and they lied about this.
The other thing is really in order for it to be shed, the spike protein would have to
go into exosomes.
Because remember, exosomes can be absorbed by others and they can be transmitted by others.
So we have to show that it's in exosomes.
And we have a dozen studies which show that they can find spike protein contained within
exosomes in body fluids.
And particularly there's a, the spike protein has a very high binding affinity to exosomes.
And exosomes and nanoparticles, they're tiny, tiny things.
They're like anywhere from like 40 to 400 nanometers in length.
The vaccines are between, the vaccine synthetic lipid nanoparticles are, let's call them LNPs,
100 to 400.
Nanoparticles are anywhere from like 20 to 200.
And so there's plenty of these nanoparticles that are small enough to diffuse and cross
physiologic barriers.
The smaller it is, the easier it is to pass.
And we do make a lot of spike.
And the studies would show the persistence of spike.
Some are like not that concerning, oh, 48 hours, two days.
But then you start to see this little trickle of studies, oh, we found it four months.
Oh, you guys saw that recent study, 187 days later, they found spike protein circulating
the blood of a vaccinated subject.
And by the way, that 187 days was not a maximum.
That was just the last time they checked and ended the study.
So we still don't know the persistence of how long people can actually make this gene therapy
product in their bodies.
And then there's this one study where they actually exposed spike protein exosomes inhaled
and they induced an immune reaction.
And by the way, exosomes or lipid nanoparticle therapies, they are being tested in any number
of routes of administration, nebulized, transdermal, transcutaneous.
Now those are synthetic.
We don't know, we don't have definitive proof that exosomes transfer through the skin, but
we do have proof that it can go through the lungs.
This is just from one paper, just kind of tabulating the different studies showing how
long the different vaccine products can remain and circulate in the body and tissues.
And then we have clinical evidence, right?
There was this famous case report that was published fairly soon into the campaign, if
I recall correctly, but it was someone who died three weeks after the vaccine with necrotizing
encephalitis.
And they found the spike protein all throughout the brain with massive amounts of inflammation
and they died.
I thought it was supposed to stay in the arm, right?
And you have this guy who dies of just disseminated spike throughout the brain.
And then if you know of Arnie Burkhart's work, who's unfortunately passed this in the past
six months, but he led a team where they were doing second opinion autopsies on patients
whose families suspected that their loved one died from the vaccine and they were sending
him the autopsy tissues and he was doing second opinion autopsies.
What did he do differently than the coroners all around the world?
He did only one thing differently, is he used a specific stain which highlights the spike
protein in the tissue.
You can't see the spike unless you use the stain.
And by the way, no one's using the stain in this world.
They don't want to know.
But he wanted to know.
He's seeing your very respected pathologist and in his series, I think it was of the
first 50 and he's given this in lectures and the lectures are absolutely terrifying.
When you see the slides of the different tissue of different organs and the amount of spike
that's there, he's shown one man who died where literally the spermatozoa were replaced
with spike protein in the man's sperm.
And he showed that 80% of those deaths were directly related to the dissemination of spike
protein with areas of necrosis and inflammation, particularly in the large vessels like the
aortic dissection and brains that were full of spike protein.
I mean, this is truly astonishing.
And again, this isn't about shedding yet.
This is just about dissemination of spike throughout the body, which makes it possible.
So the third is, do we have any evidence that it can be absorbed by others?
Well, they are actually designing, like I said, gene therapies that can be administered
by nebulization.
Those things can be absorbed through the lungs.
They can efficiently deposit it by diffusional mechanisms in all regions of the respiratory
tract.
The small size facilitates uptake into cells and transcytose across epithelial and endothelial
cells.
And then, in this absurd study, they showed that in vaccinated parents, they looked at
the kids and they all developed antibodies to spike protein.
Hmm, why would the kids have antibodies to spike protein?
So you know what these researchers hypothesized in their conclusion?
They hypothesized that the parents were transferring antibodies through the air to the children.
They didn't explore another hypothesis.
Maybe that they were shedding spike and the kids were absorbing it through the exosomes
and then generating immune response.
I mean, it's absolutely absurd.
I don't recall being given humoral immunity to all the infections that my parents survived
when I was born.
I certainly got some from my mom when I was in the Placena, where do you go, not Placena.
Amniotic sac or wherever, Flavio helped me.
I forget my endocrinology and reproductive science.
But anyway, I mean, again, but this is some of the absurdity.
This is some of that self-censorship that scientists are doing all around the world
to not talk about the elephant in the room.
You don't get this paper published if you say that it's spike being transmitted between
parents and children.
And then breast milk.
There's a number of studies showing in a cohort of moms, they can find the spike in
the breast milk.
They can find the mRNA in the breast milk.
And at first, I kind of discounted the importance of that because I was like, okay, so the baby
gets some spike in the exosome and gets to the stomach.
I mean, the acid in the stomach is going to kill it, right?
Protect the baby from it?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
It has been known for some years that mRNA encapsulated into extra cell, ugh, I can't
talk to that.
Extra cellular vesicles is protected from gastric juices and can transfect intestinal
cells.
Isn't that interesting?
So the baby's stomach is not going to prevent it from spike.
Do we have any evidence of any harm being caused by breastfeeding?
Has there ever been a side effect from breastfeeding?
You guys have ever heard that?
Maybe the moms in the room, have every breastfed a baby and then they got sick afterwards?
Well, sometimes they vomit, they're always puking up little things, but do they develop
central nervous system hemorrhages and strokes after breastfeeding?
Has anyone ever heard of that?
These were reported to Pfizer, this is in the post-surveillance reports.
And brain bleeds after a breastfeeding.
And then I can't talk about this without pointing out repeatedly the absurdity.
Look at how they categorize this.
I'm going to review it.
Upon review, two cases, which is, I think, mother, I can't remember what PM is, but cases
were determined to be non-contributory and are not included in discussion since these
two cases involve babies who were indirectly exposed to the vaccine.
So in their defense, they're implicating themselves.
They're saying, no, this case doesn't count because the baby didn't get the shot.
Wait, that is the reason.
So this is what the geniuses at Pfizer came up with.
Just say that, just exclude it because the baby didn't get the shot.
The baby just breastfed from its mother and had a stroke.
Convulsions?
Anybody here had a baby convulsed after breastfeeding?
Yes?
Okay.
In the last, before two years ago?
Hopefully not.
Again, we're going to determine that they're non-contributory because these three cases
involve babies who were indirectly exposed.
Via the transmammary route, they're literally admitting that there's shedding going on of
gene therapy product babies.
This was a pretty memorable VAERS one.
Mother of 12-month-old boy received first dose of COVID-19 vaccine at 9.15 a.m.
She breastfed her 12-month-old son three hours later and while breastfeeding the child developed
acute anaphylaxis.
To be clear, mother had the vaccine and the child had the reaction.
Respiratory failure.
You guys ever hear of respiratory failure after breastfeeding?
Four cases were determined to be non-contributory and would not include in discussion again,
again, again since these cases involved exposures to the vaccine during the mother's pregnancy
or through breastfeeding.
Skin exfoliation, 15-month-old infant with medical history of vomiting, experienced skin
exfoliation and infant irritability while being breastfed.
The outcome of the event was not recovered and outcome event infant irritability was
unknown.
Transplacental.
I could go, I could bury with transplacental data, but I'll just refer to Thorpe paper.
It finally got published this year in the one journal that takes no pharmaceutical industry
money, the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, and the CDC in their guidance
when they supposedly check safety of vaccines, they have an arbitrary threshold of a PRR
of two.
What is a PRR?
As you look at the adverse events reported with a vaccine and you compare it to what
they determine is the baseline safety signal of vaccines, which is flu, you know, super
safe vaccine.
So let's just say that the flu is safe.
Any time you have a rate of reporting that's over two compared to the flu vaccine, it's
determined to be a safety signal.
I call it a toxicity signal, but it should demand further investigation.
Thorpe and that group, they calculated the PRRs for any number of menstrual and pregnancy-related
outcomes.
PRRs between 300 to 5,000.
What was the trigger for an investigation?
Two.
This is just showing you what's happening in our world and in our science.
And again, this is the only journal that they could publish in, but these are astounding.
Menstrual abnormalities, somewhere around 8,000, their PRR.
Now let's go to person-to-person.
So we covered breastfeed transpisantil.
I just want to acknowledge the contributions of a colleague of mine called a Midwestern
doctor.
They write on Substack called the Forgotten Side of Medicine.
One physician and researcher, and we've collaborated, and what they did is we did a public call
out through Twitter and through our Substack for reports, because when I wrote my original
series, the comments were coming in like crazy.
People, biomedical researchers, physicians, describing in really good detail, almost like
in professional physician presentation, their shedding experiences of getting sick from being
exposed to vaccinated.
So we asked for more of those, and we collected as of now 1,000, but a Midwestern doctor compiled,
looked at them, categorized them in terms of severity and frequency, and also the patterns
of descriptions of the shedding.
And this is what we've kind of summarized, is that if you wanted to dismiss these as
anecdotal data, go read the 800 reports.
They are absolutely repeatable and predictable, over and over and over.
You tell me how you get 1,000 different people from all over the place, honestly detailing
in exquisite detail the same phenomenon over and over again, similar symptoms over and
over again.
The other patterns were that they were evenly split between people who got multiple symptoms
from exposure, and those that had a single symptom, and I think that's also supportive
of its veracity.
And many people started putting them in after they started reading our descriptions of shedding,
so they started realizing that that's why they were getting sick every time Uncle Johnny
came over.
That's why they were getting sick every time they went to a certain place, and they started
recognizing this shedding phenomenon in their lives.
And in general, there's two types of shedding that are described in these, which is scary.
There's primary shedding, where you go near someone who's generally recently vaccinated,
or that is not at all a cut-off, it doesn't have to be recent in many of the cases, but
that's primary.
If you yourself get sick after exposure, but then there's plenty of examples of secondary.
So some of the sensitive patients, their kids go to school, they're around all these other
vaccinated kids, then the kids come home, and then the parents feel sick, or the mom
feels sick as the kids bring home like the spike protein from school, and that's secondary.
Now who is susceptible to shedding?
Now I don't think this is a hard and fast room, we don't have data, we need much more
studies on this, but our general impression from not only our patient practice, Scott's
going to talk about it, but it's patients who suddenly either develop or have always
had very high sensitivities to either environmental toxins, drugs, I liked JP's slide yesterday
when in his history he said NKDA, no known drug allergy, no known environmental allergy,
no known food allergy, yeah NKFA.
And these are patients who probably have positive all of those, so they tend to be very physiologically
and environmentally sensitive, but that's not an exclusion.
And then the definitive proof of shedding is you need to ask yourself, if after exposure
do our patients capable of developing typical adverse event symptoms related to the vaccines,
and over and over and over again you see the same symptoms being reported, which are very
similar to my practice and my experience in treating the vaccine injury.
And then the similar symptoms occur after successive exposures, they always get similarly
sick it seems, and then they also know the exposure in which it occurs.
And they're often have like an ectomorph bobby type meaning quite thin and tall, frequently
have ligamentous laxity, have always had these sensitivities like chronic illnesses and EMF
and mold sensitivities, and oftentimes are more likely to avoid the COVID vaccine because
they know they can't handle much, especially foreign experimental genetic material being
injected.
So they tended to avoid them, but guess what, they couldn't avoid them because these things
shed.
And then some, some of my patients actually don't have a history of those sensitivities
but have become sensitive after the vaccine.
And by the way, it's not just the unvaccinated who gets sick, uh oh, I ran out of time.
No one gave me the one minute shout out, Scott, come over here and get me off the stage, otherwise
I'll keep going and then you get me mad at me.
All right, while he's walking I'm going to finish.
So the other thing is characters of shedders that basically younger tend to shed more than
older.
Most common symptoms.
Number one, by far, menstrual irregularities, decidual cash shedding, very frequently described,
headaches, tinnitus, nosebleeds, painlessness, inexplicable bruising, dizziness, brain fog,
malaise, skin rashes.
Less common, aphid, muscle pain, seizures, peripheral, neuropathy, insomnia, hair loss,
swollen lymph nodes, semen, etc.
And then rare symptoms is my last slide, stroke, blood clots, severe heart injuries,
polyminealgia, rheumatica, death, death.
There was one reported death of a guy who kept getting seizures after exposures, and then
at Thanksgiving, he went to Thanksgiving, he had a terrible seizure and died.
So there was one case of death and then cancer is obviously, some of them, that's hard to
prove.
You have to read the document that's up on the FLCC website where I go over this and
I provide some pretty supportive evidence of cancers and then obviously sensory, neuropathies
and anxiety.
It's all yours, Scott.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It only took me a year to get him off the stage in 20 minutes.
So I'm going to run through a few case studies.
This is a patient who is vaccine injured and he lives down south, had lived in New York
City for a while, and I'm sorry to say this because I'm a New Yorker, I live in Ithaca
a long way away from New York City, but the number of patients that I've had who have
gone to New York City for one thing or another and come back and been symptomatic, I've got
to tell you, New York feels like ground zero of shedding to me.
Did I just kill some of the tourist business for New York, I'm sorry.
So he lives of a partner who's unvaccinated, but she works in a restaurant, so she's dealing
with the general public, so I think there's secondary shedding going on there.
They made a trip to New York City and spent time on subways and buses and walking on the
street shoulder to shoulder with people and he really dive bombed after they came home
from that trip.
Another example of shedding for him, this is actually the case study that I did yesterday,
but a little bit more detail about it.
So family is all vaccinated, there's a lot of boosting going on there and one of the
things that I will get into here is the four D's, Density Duration Draft, Density Duration
Draft dimensions.
Spending time in a car with someone who is recently boosted is about as an intense of
a shedding experience as I think you're going to encounter and that's what happened.
He came up to Ithaca, New York to get stem cells and exosomes and spent a lot of time
with his dad in the car and then most recently the patient traveled to Colorado again in
the car of his dad and there was a reappearance of a number of different symptoms during and
after that trip.
So this is a patient who, one of the things that was curious here was he got together with
a friend that he hadn't seen for a long time and they sat close to each other, like physically
touching close to each other, talking, laughing and then this person had a really bad week
like within hours of spending that time together like had a headache, myalgia, joint pain,
increased fatigue and then the person traveled.
Notice that when they spent an intense hour in airport security in a Florida airport started
to feel badly, went home, had a loving reunion with his spouse and made love and we'll say
bodily fluids were exchanged and the spouse developed severe 9 out of 10 abdominal pain
within minutes and they both concluded at the same moment shedding and went and grabbed
something like 30 milligrams of Vibramectin and prayed and stuck close to each other and
within about a half hour the abdominal pain went down to like one or two out of 10.
So that's going to get into something that I'm going to say, I know what I'm supposed
to say, this is not medical advice, I'm going to say this is medical advice, I'm going to
channel Dr. Ruth here and say that I think that male ejaculate is one of the most potent
conveyors of the spike protein at this moment in time and couples of whatever sexual persuasion
really need to seriously consider what's happening with ejaculate in your interactions.
And then a week of shedding, boy this was, the person was feeling better, had a dental
visit with a crown that was three hours sitting in the chair, that's a really intense shedding
experience, went to a network meeting with like 40 people from the local business community,
went out to dinner, this was around Christmas time, went out shopping to a couple of shops,
had a terrible week after, terrible week, significant rebound of a whole constellation
of symptoms, headache, myalgia, joint pain, gastrointestinal disturbances, increased parasthegias
which is numbness and tingling in the feet and the fingers.
This is a short story here but a good story.
I think it's really useful to think about any HVAC experts in the audience, no, that
would be my next career, I think HVAC is very sexy.
From about two feet to about ten feet or higher, particles in the air are very dispersed
and then the lower you get towards the ground the more and more concentrated it becomes.
This kind of makes sense, if you're like me and you never dust in your house, I go by
a shelf and it's been two months and I'm like, oh I probably need to dust that, it's like
where are the particles land in the house?
So in the gym, one of the things you can think about is that when we're exhaling, so when
we're exhaling at rest, and I think I ran these numbers by Pierre in a team meeting
a couple of weeks ago, about 30 liters a minute, oh okay, not five, if you're exercising
it could be even higher 30 liters a minute.
So you could walk into the gym at a certain hour and it could have been filled with people
an hour before and the aerosolized particles are still suspended in the air for up to two
and a half hours, right?
So there's that, there's the idea of what happens if you're like, while I'm not get
down on the ground to do crunches or sit ups or push ups, basically you're hoovering up
all the aerosolized particles are concentrating in the bottom two feet of the floor.
And in this case, this is just such a brilliant patient, we've talked about shedding and we're
having a visit and she's like, yeah, it's doing really well and then I thought, well
I would go to this exercise class and I was like, how many people were in the exercise
class?
She's like 60 and I'm like, oh no, I was like, do you think any of them were boosted?
Oh yeah, they were all boosted, I'm sure they were all boosted and I'm like, and then what
happened?
She's like, oh, well this went wrong and this went wrong and I'm having this terrible week,
I'm like, okay, well let's not do that again.
This one was interesting because I would say that there's some laboratory data that I can
hang my hat on here.
This patient's A is not vaccinated, he's done a tremendous job with intermittent fasting.
There are not many people in our practice that have a spike antibody dilution level of
2.3.
I mean, I could probably count them on my fingers and my toes.
And he had actually been making a great recovery, we had diagnosed that he had amylate fibrin
microclotting and started him on aspirin and alexis and plavix and natokinesis and he
was taking ivermectin and his wife was loving it because they went traveling and he could
walk and I'm sure that their sex life took a boost.
And then he had cataract surgery and things just dive bombed after that and this would
be one of those examples, I think of it like the two minute forensics of a visit where
we go into the visit and the patient's like, I don't know what happened, I was doing great
and all of a sudden things went really terrible.
It generally takes about two minutes of conversation to be like, oh, well, that's what happened.
And there's actually multiple patients I've had who they had put off their cataract surgery
during the pandemic and they were doing better and they were like, oh, go take care of my
cataracts.
And what happened?
They have an anesthesiologist, it's like leaning over them, right?
They've got all the people in the waiting room, they've got all the nurses pre-op, post-op.
And so like during the visit, it was kind of, it was kind of, sorry, it was kind of hilarious
because his spouse is like, oh no, he's doing terrible, like he's huffing and puffing and
he's like, no, I'm fine, oh, what are you talking about?
Okay, okay, well, I'm going to let you two sort that out.
This one was really interesting because one of the things I think Pierre referenced in
the data from a Midwestern doctor was young, healthy people with a more robust immune system,
maybe being more potent shedders.
Am I reading that correctly, Pierre?
Yeah.
So this is a gentleman who is unvaccinated and he works in a college environment and
it's a men-only institution and wowsers.
This is one of those situations where you see an unvaccinated person spike antibody level
and you're like, that is shedding.
16,000, that is shedding.
And he acts like a vaccine injured patient, like in terms of the preponderance of neurological
symptoms.
And so, you know, we spend a lot of time in the first visit strategizing like, hey, is
there a way that you can like start teaching remote or basically think of a career change
because this isn't going to go well.
You can read faster than I can talk.
So I'm going to let you take a look at that.
I'm really grateful.
This is actually a close friend of mine who I think is more knowledgeable than even close
colleagues that treat long-haul and vaccine injury.
I mean, I didn't even give you the level of detail that she gave me to share during this
presentation.
But I look at this, and to me, in Ithaca, we've got these trains that carry salt from
underneath Cuyuga Lake, and they've got six diesel locomotives in the front, and it takes
them forever to get started.
And then once they get started, boy, howdy, don't want to get in front of them, it takes
forever to stop.
So I look at this and I'm like, yep, that's one of those salt trains.
Went to the optometrist and went to the dentist, okay, now we've got nausea, vomiting and headache.
And then a little while later, we've got rib pain.
And then I go get my hair cut, and now I've got a migraine, nausea and vomiting, then I
go to the dentist.
Now my urine's pink, right?
And then that becomes heavy menses.
So I go to the chiropractor to kind of get straightened out, and now I've got really
severe left abdominal pain, and so then I go and have multiple medical evaluations, and
they do an MRI, and they find a twisted ovarian cyst, right?
And then they have many, many more medical visits because my mom has had, there's cataract
surgery again, and then by the time we get to the end of it, this is, wow, emergency
surgery ruptured ovarian cyst, and it was the size of a football.
Okay, so I was having zero luck finding no copyright photos, so you're going to take
a little tour through the life of Scott here.
The 4Ds was something that Pierre talked about in a paper on masks in 2020.
I'm not going to talk about masks, but I have found this, so now we're trying to get into
the hope and light part of the talk.
What do you do about it?
Well, first thing, I think, is have a perspective, a lens through which you evaluate risk.
And some of my patients kill me now with this, like they're like, well, I was thinking about
going to church, and I was thinking about, well, the density is this, and the dimensions
are this big, and I'm like, okay, great, you got the lesson.
So density, this is me and the trauma team at SUNY Upstate.
Obviously pre-pandemic, anyway, I would say pre-pandemic, we're like snuggled up there
on that stretcher, breathing each other's air.
Again, I think a car is like the penultimate example of density.
You're in this teeny little space, and if the weather's hot or cool, you're recycling
the air, you're basically sharing each other's air.
The opposite of this, sailing on Kuga Lake with a nice breeze, the sky is literally the
limit, like any, I mean, a lot of us figured this out during the pandemic, right?
Like spending time outside with friends and family just intuitively felt like a lower
risk situation.
I would say this room with this space in terms of dimensions, by the way, that's San Chapelle
in Paris.
It's one of the most beautiful landmarks in Paris with all that stained glass.
With ceilings at high, or ceilings this high, I think we can say that compared to the gym,
laying on the floor in the gym, the dimensions, the effect of shedding on us here is going
to be blunted, right?
And then duration.
I mean, we basically were in this room all day long, right?
I'm just hoping that the HVA system is working really well, but I mean, I can start to feel
it, certainly get a little stuffier here towards the end of the day, but so, okay, that was
a little bit of perspective there.
This is a dark moment, okay?
What I would say I've seen in the labs, what our team has seen in the labs is that since
this latest booster rolled out in mid-September, we started seeing a change in the spike antibody
results that we have not seen in thousands of data points in nearly 700 patients.
And I think one of the first ones, if I was to pick one here, it would be the bottom left,
823, this person had unvaccinated, had a spike antibody dilution level of 250, and then,
retested, and they had jumped up to 10,000, but a lot of what we've seen, we have dozens
of examples, is patients who jumped from their bottom right corner, 157, up to a greater
than 250K, 250,000, right?
So my interpretation of this is that even though a relatively small percentage of the
population got boosters, that these boosters are more potent, and that the impact that
they're having in terms of shedding is very profound.
So what to do about it in four minutes?
So some of these things we've talked a lot about during the conference, I've remefted
in, you either need to order it from India or get it from a prescriber.
I'm actually finding that I think 12 milligrams is a, I like that dose because it's easy to
get 12 milligrams from India, and I think I see clinical benefit from it in patients
in terms of symptoms and also in terms of their labs.
NEC Augmentata, very efficient at breaking down spike, just the caution that if you decide
you're going to give this to a family member and they haven't ever done anything, take
it low and slow because you don't want them to hate you.
Natachanase, we've talked about it several times, crosses the blood brain barrier.
Then when you get into some of my favorite ones here, the epic time, shout out to the
epic times because I think I saw, over there, a couple representatives.
I mean, like the epic times has just been a beacon of light in terms of the integrity
of their coverage during the pandemic.
They had a great article about green tea, taught me something.
I knew matcha had a lot of epigallate, I'd rather say EGCG, which blocks spike entry
into cells, but sencha or matcha tend to have more of it.
That's why I'm up here sipping my green tea.
We've had a lot of conversation about intermittent fasting.
I didn't actually hear anybody talk about chaperone guided autophagy.
This is my fave.
Every Saturday I'm in my near infrared sauna with a thermometer getting my temperature
up to 100, trying to induce those heat shock proteins.
I think of it like there's micro autophagy, there's macro autophagy, which we're getting
into when we're doing intermittent fasting, and then chaperone guided autophagy.
I think of that like it's a wheelbarrow, a dump truck, and an earth mover.
I think that chaperone guided autophagy is like an earth mover.
The 4Ds, I talked about that.
A little plug for our practice.
My colleague Dr. Anthony Fazio, who I've known for 20 years, been a traditional Chinese
medicine practitioner for 30 years.
This isn't proprietary, but we took a study that took plant-based remedies, exposed spike
to it in vitro, salt was mostly lethal, and we came up with some eye drops and some nasal
spray.
Then we experimented on me and my wife, and we had green goobers coming out of our eyes
for a few weeks, so we got the formula right, and it's more benign now.
This is not an antiviral focus, although it is.
It's something that helps with spike.
I like thinking along those lines, like what can we do to help the mucus membranes deflect
the shedding?
Okay, so now Baobab in one minute.
This is how hard Baobab is.
Mmm, yummy.
Baobab is a powdered fruit.
Baobab trees cover half the continent of Africa.
It's all these things that I have listed up here, and it would cost 20 bucks to get a
bag of it that lasts a month and a half.
It's important to sip it, not to drink it or eat it.
What we've found in our labs is that when we have patients sipping Baobab, and I've
got the details there about how to do it, also I just dropped a sub-stack.
My sub-stack is Lightning Bug.
If you want the nitty-gritty on Baobab and how do you mix it and the whole story behind
it, it's there.
But we find that the spike antibody levels in patients go down faster, and we find that
their micro-clotting scores decrease more over a shorter period of time when they sip
Baobab.
Before I went to the airport on Thursday, I had my Baobab, I was sipping it, I had to
dump it for security, I went through, I mixed up some more, I'm sipping it on the plane.
Most of us are used to carrying water bottles and beverage containers at this point.
I think it's a cheap, it's not foolproof, but it's a cheap layer of prevention in terms
of shedding.
I think the main dynamic there is the EGCG, and I'm out of time, the EGCG block in spike
entry into cells, but there's certainly some synergy there.
So, thank you.
Are you going to ask questions or, yeah, cool.
Middle seats, he wants us to.
First, I have a little housekeeping to do, all right, there we go.
All right, so first question, let's get right to it.
How long post-vaccination can a person actively shed spike?
Unknown in terms of actual published data that longest one was 187, still circulating
in the blood.
However, in some of the testimonials for the extremely sensitive, some of emphatically
stated people shed persistently and permanently.
They can tell, some claim, they can tell who's vaccinated within two minutes, within 10 seconds
indoors and generally within two feet outdoors.
But those are the extreme sensitive.
Scott?
I think that about 10% of people are making spike ongoing, even people who only had two
vaccines back in the beginning.
And I think kind of a baseline point of departure for most people is the cheap test, the spike
antibody dilution test to get a read on kind of where you stand.
So from my perspective, from what I see clinically, people who just got one shot could still be
shedding today.
And I view it like a gas pedal and a brake pedal.
I think that if someone goes out and has a lot of contact, a lot of exposure, it's like
stepping on the gas pedal.
But in terms, we're talking about maximums in reality and from a pragmatic sense.
Definitely most occurs most around booster campaigns and much more commonly after the
recently vaccines.
That's the general rule.
But as far as the limits, we don't know what the limits are and we think the limits are
infinite.
And with the recent booster, we're still seeing patients who are coming in with new levels
above 25,000 and that started in mid-September.
Oh, fascinating.
In speaking of data, do we have any examples yet where somebody's been tested?
They have the S antibodies, but no N, no E, and they're unvaccinated.
Oh, do you have that, Scott?
Unvaccinated with no.
We don't have the, we have N negative, we have plenty of N that have a positive spike.
And some of them are, you know, that one's difficult because some of them can be long
COVID, so unvaccinated, but it's possible that their levels of N disappeared.
So it could be, you know, it's still, yeah, it's, it can't be defended on that one.
Interesting.
Diane's asking, do you think the blood supply is safe?
A lot of people have that question.
I'll go.
Go ahead, Scott.
So both Pierre and I each had a patient who acted vaccine injured after getting a transfusion
and had not been vaccinated.
You know, I worked in trauma for six years and I'll say, you know, if you're in a, if
you're in a car crash and you're in the trauma room with me and you need us to rapidly transfuse
20 units of blood, that's what we're going to do.
That's what you need us to do.
But if as, as in a document, which I think is going to be shared that Pierre and a Midwestern
doctor worked on, there are ways to try and anticipate or eliminate the need for a transfusion
if you're going to have an elective surgery.
But if I could avoid getting a transfusion, I would.
I think that's the answer.
But in terms of how, what the risks are, so Scott's right, we each had one patient that
would clearly temporarily associated the transfusion, but in our public call out for testimonials,
there really weren't many.
There was one, Steve Kersh did a survey, there was none reported there.
We did have a comment from a hematologist oncologist.
There was just one concerning comment that they said that in the past couple of years,
they'd seen an increase in transfusion reactions and they didn't know why they were seeing
this increase.
They attributed to that.
But I don't think this is cause for huge alarm.
I think like anything in medicine or anything we do, there are risks.
I don't think these are outlandish risks.
I think they're there.
They're hard to quantify.
But you also, like Scott said, there's certain situations where you do not have a choice,
but then there are, when you have elective and you have a choice, there are strategies
you can do.
Jehovah's Witnesses, right?
They have different protocols for that.
They're cell saver techniques with surgery.
So there are ways to stay safe if you really want to try to avoid a transfusion.
But especially now with booster uptake going down, I think as we go forward, as this madness
of a campaign recedes in the past, I hope, I think the blood supply will be progressively
safer.
I agree.
Interesting.
I think there's a limited prophylaxis against shedding for primary care physicians who maybe
have trouble with the 4Ds.
Can I just answer a short answer, and then I want you to answer this?
But I want to be clear, like when we talk about shedding, I think there's two ways.
I mean, there's clinically significant shedding, which, again, I think is only a small proportion
or susceptible to.
I think we're all getting shed on.
And it disturbs me because, and I hate to raise the level of alarm, but this recent discovery
of all this catastrophe, this DNA plasmid contamination, those plasmids can go into exosomes
and they can be shed.
And so now I'm being subjected to the contaminated vials that other people got injected, and
now I'm at risk for.
So I have real worries about the risk of shedding, but I don't get sick.
I'm not susceptible.
So I think there's risk of shedding, and then there's risk of getting sick from shedding.
And so I think they're different.
And you want to try that one, Scott?
Yeah.
This gets into the story of the Baobab.
Pierre was away in Hawaii, and I said, you're getting really grumpy and burned out, so I
think you should stay there and do some windsurfing.
And I'm going to cover your patients.
And so I met this family, and patient zero was actually not the patient, a primary care
practitioner who had been sipping Baobab for years, not with no understanding or expectation
that it had anything to do with shedding or the spike protein, is because Baobab's got
a lot of vitamin C, and it helps stimulate Bifidobacterium, and it modulates your glucose
metabolism.
And even though this practitioner had two bad bat shots, two bad Pfizer's, and worked
every day, five days a week, in a clinic, getting tons of shedding, his spike antibody
was only 100.
And that's what led me to dig into this and be like, what is going on here?
And so I really dove into learning about Baobab, and then we did a pilot project in
our practice, and it turned out that it was helpful.
So the answer to the question is, if you're a primary care practitioner, or if you're
anyway, if you're a healthcare provider providing in-person care, heck, if you're a steward
is for Delta.
I think that if you can integrate Baobab sipping into your life along with some of these other
things we talked about, I think that's smart.
With your experience where you see the spike go up to, spiking up to 25,000, would that
argue in your mind that they're getting mRNA, not direct spike antigen itself?
I think it means that they're getting a lot of spike, and they're probably also getting
spike antibody, and I mean, I think they're getting it all, and it's an indirect measure.
I'm not sure if I'm answering your question.
Are they getting the mRNA?
From the studies, it's spike.
It's spike.
I mean, they can find some exosomes with mRNA, and we know that exosomes or mRNA within
lipid nanoparticles, no matter how it's absorbed into the body, can be active.
They did a study on cystic fibrosis where they did nebulize lipid nanoparticles with genetic
material in it that fixes the gene effect in cystic fibrosis, and they actually showed
improvement in the membrane function.
They actually fixed the deficit.
You can have active genetic material within exosomes be biologically active, and it really
is worrisome.
This question is, the risk of cancer is high from shedding exposures with vaccine exposure.
I don't know that.
I'm going to guess that it's less, but it's non-zero.
At the end of this, I think Zara is going to put up the link to the shedding document
that I wrote.
It's very, very clearly detailed and referenced.
We go over some of the testimonials, and there are a couple of compelling reports that clearly
seem to be shedding induced cancer, but I don't think it's that common, but I don't know.
This is so well studied out there by our system that I'm drowning in data to answer your questions.
Just don't inhale.
Don't rub up against anything.
It'll be fine.
A question, do we need to worry about mRNA vaccinated meat given the ability of the encapsulated
mRNA to survive gastric juices?
Is this a question about the mRNA vaccines that they're putting in cows now?
Are they injecting it within, I don't know enough about this.
Is that within lipid nanoparticles?
The mRNAs?
I think they are, yeah.
And why are they doing that?
Because they can.
That's actually what I thought about with nanoparticle when I was reviewing all these
papers on nanoparticles.
I was like, I'm like, what are these scientists, they're literally mad scientists, they're
playing around with technology, they have no idea of the short or long-term consequences,
and we as a human race have done that repeatedly over the last 100 years, unleashed technologies
that we don't care of the secondary effects, and this one is one of the more troubling
examples.
And so yeah, I don't want mRNA injected into my meat, thank you.
Well, remember they told us, hey, this mRNA is just the same, you have mRNA in every cell
in your body.
Yeah.
Right?
And that was not true.
And the answer to that prior question, it speaks to that study that I found where literally
mRNA within lipid nanoparticles can be absorbed by the baby, it can go across the intestinal
cells and get absorbed.
So why would I want to eat meat that's been injected with genetic material, I don't want
anybody's lab concocted gene sequences.
Thank you.
All right, Scott, what was the evidence that patient six in your presentation was the symptoms
were due to vaccine shedding?
Was number six one with the super detailed, yeah, well, I would say the evidence is along
the same lines of the evidence for anybody else, like there's temporal association, there's
the patterns of what the patient experienced.
I mean, I think when you see something happen, it's kind of like when you see a possum cross
in front of you a thousand different times, you're like, yeah, that's a possum.
And that might be clearer to people in the audience, like when they see the paper that
Pierre wrote.
But to me, it's the temporal association and the accumulation of symptoms.
I'll just give a quick guess.
Many of my patients read my sub-stack and I did that big series on sheddings, which
were now compiled into more academic document.
But I saw a patient three weeks ago, and he wasn't doing well, and he had been doing well
previously and he was reporting a lot of decline and recurrence of symptoms.
And he just offhand mentions to me, you know, there's this other thing, Dr. Corey, he's
like, I can't go into stores anymore.
He's like, I go into Trader Joe's and I feel like death within five minutes and I have
to leave.
And then he says, I was at a farmer's market yesterday, it was really crowded there and
within 10 minutes arriving, I had to go.
And he's telling me he can't go into the forties, high density, low dimension prolonged durations
with poor draft.
And I said to him, I said, well, obviously, you know what that is, right?
And he's like, no.
And I'm explaining to him what shedding was.
And he was like, aha, it's like a light bulb went off.
I mean, it is a temporal association.
It's typical of his symptoms.
They recur when he's exposed to a high concentration of people.
And I think it's fairly clear.
Interesting.
Well, Elizabeth is asking, will an elderly couple who get all the jabs boosters increased
their spike load by shedding back and forth?
This is a pickleball question, I think.
You can take this, Scott.
One of the patterns that I notice in looking at the thousands of data points is that although
men and I'm one of them can definitely experience shedding, generally I think that the spike
tends to travel from male to female.
So I have numerous examples in our practice of couples where the female is vaccinated
or unvaccinated, symptomatic.
The male can have a spike antibody level above 25,000 and have no symptoms, right?
I don't think that bodes well for the future health of that man.
I said that ejaculate is very toxic, potent conveyor of spike.
In terms of trading back and forth, I'd say kissing and hugging is minimal compared to
if they have intercourse or if they have oral sex and the female takes his ejaculate into her body.
I think she's going to be taking a lot more hits than him.
So it's not an equal game of pickleball.
All right.
Well done.
So the general question here asking about is it recommended for asymptomatic vaccinated
people to be doing anything to detox themselves?
We have eye prevent, which has really devised more for people who had been vaccinated and
were very concerned about all of these reports of sudden arrests and deaths and different
things that are happening.
And I think that that's a little bit of a different question.
I would say what Scott's slide had would be our more up-to-date clinical guide for how
to prevent or mitigate from the effects of shedding, I think, what Scott had on his last
side.
Thank you, Jeff.
Before we get to that question, do you have any response to the other one?
Alda, don't go past that question.
Before we finish, I just want to ask the crew.
There was a last slide that I was going to share with that discount code.
Are we all to go back to that before we come off the stage?
Okay.
So the question here is, Scott, are you saying it's better to pull out?
Yeah.
Yes.
So.
It's an anonymous question.
Yeah.
Of course it's anonymous.
Is that Paul Marrick?
Yeah.
Okay.
So again, I'm trying to channel Dr. Ruth.
You know, I have been, since I gave up French women, as I've told some of you during our
visits, and I've been happily married for 30 years, to me it's an act of love and kindness
and respect to be using a condom during intercourse at this point and to not share that fluid
with the person that I love who I don't want to harm.
So yeah.
All right.
Well, thank you.
Thank you both.
So there's a slide.
I'm hoping they're going to have that slide if you could pull that up.
Okay.
So I guess I don't need to stand to see it.
So there were a lot of questions, a lot of people coming up to me asking about the horsey
device that Dr. Marrick says I wear around my neck.
Yeah.
So it's the ARC Microtech.
That is the website.
I called the company this morning and they were kind enough to come up with a discount
code.
That is it, FLCCC 2020.
So what that means is that if you go to that website and you order that device, you will
get free shipping and also the company will donate $20 to basically a charitable donation
fund and all that money is going to go to React 19.
And also if you go to the site and it says it's 900 pounds, don't be scared.
It should end up being between $350 and $370 depending on which state you are in and whether
or not they charge import taxes.
One other thing is that by Monday they said that on that website they're going to have
some more detailed instructions about how you can use it because the packet about how to
use it for your horse is not going to be that helpful.
And Zara, could you put up the link to the shedding document?
It's on our FLCCC website but if you guys want to read more, I kind of gave you a bit
of the overview.
There's a lot more detail, especially the summary clinical testimonials that we link
to.
If you read through it, you'll learn much more in granular detail about what's really
affecting some of the people out there in regards to shedding.
So thank you.
We'll be good.
Thank you.
Hey.
